A conversation with Mary Rodwell

Mary Rodwell is a professional counsellor, hypnotherapist, ufologist researcher and metaphysician. Mary is the founder and Principal of ACERN (Australian Close Encounter Resource Network) and is recognized Internationally, as one of Australians’ leading researchers in the UFO and Contact phenomenon. She is the Vice-President of Star Kids Project Ltd and an Advisory Committee member of Exopolitics.

She has lectured in the USA, Canada, Hawaii, UK and New Zealand and appears regularly in national and international media news programs such as the Australian documentary OZ, the BBC television program, the Paranormal Files (UK) and Discovery Channel Animal X. She has also participated in a University debate forum on this phenomenon, in 2006 at Oxford University, UK.

Mary’s research shows while many “Star Children” sometimes called “Indigos” have telepathic abilities, and are spiritually awakened and describe seeing “Beings of Light” (angels or light beings), the main difference is that “Star Children” have recollections of encounters with extraterrestrial beings and of being taken aboard extraterrestrial spaceships. Mary’s research also explores the evidence from scientific, medical, psychological, and historical perspective to support what she believes is a “genetic” engineering program, which is part of an “upgrading” of homo sapiens, and creating a paradigm shift in human consciousness, which these children demonstrate.

Website: http://www.acern.com.au

Book: Awakening: How Extraterrestrial Contact Can Transform Your Life

In watching this You Tube video interview, I instantly was impressed with the level and corroborating detailed information that Mary gave. This information also blends well with what I have been finding that I decided to contact her. Here is a transcript of our encounter.

RON MAYER: Thank you Mary for taking the time to reply. You do me honour just in doing so.

MARY RODWELL: You are welcome.

RON MAYER: I am fascinated with your work so I will be following what you find.

For your consideration only:

(This is still only theory but one I find fascinating) I have one last question and some more information for you to possibly consider.

Have you found or interviewed any children that are autistic or have ADD or ADHD?

I suspect that interviewing these types of children would be difficult. But the material has suggested that these children too, are most likely Star Children. She refers to them as Indigo type 3’s. Here the incarnate agrees to Host within the same body, an Annunaki soul in order to assist this Annunaki in obtaining and activating the 12th DNA strand and obtain these ascension codes which the Annunaki do not posses. ( I wish some within the New Age and UFO culture would get away from this idea that the Annunaki are our progenitor or our creators, they are not).

I know this will be a bit of a stretch, however please bare with me here.

MARY RODWELL: Its not a stretch at all and my last presentation at Nexus actually covers all of this as i speak about ADD ADHD and Aspergers and Autistic as new programs and how this is evidenced in the DNA. I have just sent the article on my presentation to Nexus because Duncan Roads wanted this. It isn’t published yet. But it covers two scientists in genetics who have qualified my hypotheses

RON MAYER: These beloved children (Indigo type 3’s) have a most difficult job to do amongst all the Star Children in that they have two Avatars present in one body. The guiding Avatar (the Oraphim who the material indicate are apparently our real creators), this Oraphim Avatar possess the potential for activating their 48 strands of DNA where as the Annunaki Avatar only have a maximum potential of 11.5 DNA strands. Without this 12 DNA strand the Annunaki cannot ascend out of the time matrix. This is what is known as a bio-regenesis contract.

During the life of the Indigo three incarnate, the Annunaki Avatar in many cases attempts to take complete control of the child’s body for its own power hungry and selfish purpose. Many times the Oraphim Avatar who carries this pre life agreement to assist the Annunaki Avatar ends up deliberately disconnecting certain DNA Vector Codes (some scientist see this as junk DNA) in order to prevent the Annunaki from achieving full possession. This can result in sensory overload that is experienced by these gifted children and their resulting “shutting down” of their cognitive connection to society.

Of course this is still just a theory but one I find very intriguing.

Another factor regarding Indigo / Star Children is the fact that they come in with More DNA strands active in their Gnome than the general Human population has. It is this that produces these amazing “gifts”.

MARY RODWELL: Yes this is so

RON MAYER: According to theory, humans come in with DNA strands 1, 2 and 3 active (but with massive mutation in DNA strands 2 and 3). DNA Strand 4 – the astral level of the human Crystal body, is usually activated around age 11. Here the 4th DNA strand that also has massive vector code misalignments and magnetic reversal, never manage to repair this damage and further activation of DNA strands 5 through 12 are never fully achieved.

  • Comment added after (One thing I’d like to interject here is  when speaking of the 12 Strand DNA Template, it is not to suggest that additional Heli will be added for a total of 24 Heli for the 12 Strand configuration. Here you would always “see” only the two Heli in what-ever dimension you are in when looking at the DNA strand template itself. The Two Heli “handrails” indicate the genetic material donated by both your mother as well as your father. A third Heli would indicate a third sex which is highly unlikely at this stage in human evolution. What will change are the number of Nucleotide Base Pars that are recognized. Instead of the 4 that we currently see, there should be an additional 8 more Base Paris for a total 12 Nucleotide Base Pairs. This is the concept of just what a 12 Strand DNA template would look like).

It is curious to note just how turbulent the teenage years usually are for regular humans as a result of the misfiring or blocking of Vector Codes of DNA strand 4 and the hormonal swings that are associated with this. Is it any wonder that adults find teenagers a complete mystery?

Now Star Children / Indigos have an advanced DNA configuration. They come in with DNA strand 1, 2, and 3 active, just like regular humans have (they also come in with the same mutations as humans) but here, Indigos also come in with DNA strands 5 and 6 active at birth. They also have their DNA strand 4 active at birth rather than activating this DNA strand at age 11 like normal Humans.

This gives them such a cognitive Leap in understanding right from birth that truly gives them the appearance of being a very old and awakened soul in such a young body.

I personally remember as an infant attempting to telepathically communicate with my siblings and parents well before I could speak. I remember thinking “why can’t they hear me” this, well before I could speak. In fact I also remember thinking just how slow and difficult the English Language was when I did begin to learn and speak it.

MARY RODWELL: Yes see my article on the children who I have written about

RON MAYER: It is claimed that these Star Children / Indigos are from the “future” in that their genetics are borrowed from certain human “root races” that only exists in our future. They would be considered a future human and acutely indicate just where the direction our human evolution is heading.

So their main purpose here at this time is simply to be present on the planet during this Stellar Activation Cycle (ascension cycle) in order to Ground the dimensional wave infusions normally associated with a SAC.

This concept that all we needed to do was be present on the planet, was first introduced to me by my Elder Grandmother Pa’Ris’Ha. This, as Buffalo Hearts (Indigos) , she said, was all we were required to do in this incarnation that everything else we did in service to others was additional Dharma which we would be recognized for. This function of channeling these higher dimensional frequencies were done in order to prevent dimensional energy overload on the planet’s grids that would result in pole shift occurring during a SAC as our planets’ grid system is also very damaged.

I apologize to getting so long winded here, sometime when I start to type my fingers just take over.

As I stated above this theoretical information is simply for your consideration in that you may find this information interesting.

Again. Thank you taking the time to respond.

( excerpt from Article )

MARY RODWELL:  I think this is important that people realize these children have a broader version of reality and it may come over as a dysfunction when in fact they are deliberately harder to program into a more limited third dimensional reality. The ‘Letter’ people, ADD, ADHD, Asperger’s, and Autism.

In 2013 I was approached by a scientist who at this stage wishes to remain anonymous, referred to as L.O.G. Her scientific qualifications are impressive, she has a PhD in Molecular Toxicology, Bachelor in Biochemistry, and Molecular Biology Diploma. In her personal life she   experienced a NDE (near death experience), instant healing, and UFO encounters with beings she calls the “Cone heads”, and green luminescent beings. She also acknowledges the intergenerational link, as her own father and her son also have encounters. L.O.G. calls herself a “letter person” combination ADHD and Asperger’s. She believes individuals with ADD, Asperger’s and Autism do not have ‘faulty’ genes but are a human upgrade, i.e. ‘Letter People.

I do not believe the theory these are ‘broken genes’ but offering new multidimensional skills to prevent limited re-programming of a third dimensional reality. It is not so simple as foreign DNA. It’s a combination of genetically improved bodies, in combination with souls from different places in our Universe, incarnating in these ‘improved’ bodies. The souls have different frequencies/vibrations depending on their evolutionary status and it plays a role in activation of the DNA in that particular body. I believe we also have to take into account the collective soul of Homo sapiens.”

L.O.G goes on to say;

“ ‘Letter people’ show impairment in communication between the brain-halves, thus they use one side of the brain for solving the same problem. They say ‘we are dysfunctional’ however it may be a way to free more space in the brain for solving difficult tasks. The Asperger’s part might be responsible for ‘higher’ knowledge, not interested in traditional learning.”

In her research she found some unique chemical differences.

“ I observed the calculated levels of acetylcholine and dopamine in the brain is ‘higher’ in letter people. Acetylcholine is formed from choline in the vitamin B family and “letter people” need more choline (but also other vitamin B family members) because they use more of it. So that’s the simplicity behind the “cure” for “letter people” – more vitamin B’s, and MSM (methylsulfonylmethane), to help in the enzymatic reactions in the brain and the formation of acetylcholine from choline The effect comes a few days after the first intake and if you stop taking the supplements the first signs of imbalance (ADHD and so on) can be noticed after a few days, depending on how much stress you are exposed to.”

She goes on to identify some problems these people struggle with on a constant basis.

“I had also surmised, ‘letter’ people have expanded sensitivities and awareness, this would suffer with present limited and limiting human reality programming. It would be easier for them to retain multidimensional awareness, if they were not so easily programmed in present social, limited and inaccurate third dimensional reality.”

It was heartening to discover corroboration through my communication with Dr. William Brown. With a PhD in Biology, Brown has an impressive cachet of scientific credentials. His statement corroborates both L.O. G’s and Tracey Taylor’s’ information. He wrote;

“I believe that genetic modification is occurring right now in utero, and is actually producing a New Human.  The hybrids are altogether a new species of human. This is shown by the exponential increase in Autistic, ADD and Indigo children. The new genetic architecture allows them to see the world in a multidimensional fashion. I believe research would show dormant genetic regions are being integrated into the biological system, and this is occurring in all of us to produce expanded awareness. Their brains are working faster and they have access to more information. In the classroom, learning is much faster than normal. I believe they already ‘know’ what’s being taught. The ‘intrinsic’ understanding of certain knowledge and information goes down to bio-molecular level where sentient activity of the brain actually takes place in the atomic structure of DNA molecules. It is trans-generational information. The information is encoded within the atomic structure of the DNA molecule. It can be accessed with greater efficiency and produce savant-like characteristics. The modification of the DNA is more the remodelling of the genome to make dormant regions accessible again.”

Neil Gould, a Ufologist/Experiencer and author of “Close Encounters of the ADHD Kind”, as a child experienced expanded perceptions and extra-terrestrial encounters. The difficulty was in trying to cope and understand a limited and limiting third dimensional world. Many adult experiencers have children with such labels, and these children often had interactions with spirits and extra-terrestrials. Are these individuals new programs with abilities not yet understood?

Best regards

Mary R


Mary Rodwell Part one Article July 2013 Extra terrestrial contact exploring a New pardigm

Part 2 article 2013 The dimensions of soul-1